Muliple MIDI tracks trhough Reason - problem

In reason, patch the audio out of redrum to a separate audio channel (bypass the reason mixer), then create a new aux in Pro Tools, insert another reeason rewire on it and select that channel as the return.

Thanks! That worked. Now, can I send multiple stereo inputs into ProTools from Reason via Rewire? If not, does anyone have a clever way to emulate stereo? I am going to play with multiple mono inputs and see what happens. Doug

Stereo is just two channels. Send the L to one channel and the R to another. You should be able to select adjacent channel pairs on a stereo aux track (1&2, 3&4, 5&6, etc), or use two multi-mono versions of the reason rewire plugin and un-link them.

Hmmm, I am a little confused. I tried to do what you suggested, but could not quite get it. First off, what I am trying to do is have mutliple tracks in protools rewired to Reason where Reason will dictate the pan of the stereo tracks. For instance, I have a piano track in stereo (for argument sake). Now I am setting up a redrum track and have the balances for all the different drum sounds how I like them in Reason (bass drum in front, toms across the sides, ride to the left, or whatever). Now I want to take those pan settings (from reason) and record a midi track into Protools (via rewire) as one stereo file. When I tried to do what you suggested, I could never get the "stereo landscape" I created for the drums in Reason into Protools. I am not super verse in linking/unlinking the different stereo inputs on a track, so maybe an explanation of that would do the trick, but I did play around with that to no avail. Thanks again for all the help! Doug

Actually, you never posted which version of PT or which version of Reason. I beleive that before 6.7, there was only one stereo channel selectable on the rewire interface, but I'm having a hard time remembering. (and somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.) I'm using PT6.9, and Reason 3.0 and on my interface on a stereo instance of the rewire plugin to Reason, my channel selection list looks . As you can see, I have 32 pairs of audio channels to select as stereo pairs. If yours does too, just select another stereo pair, and patch your instrument to that pair in reason. If you are indeed using an older version of PT, and your channel selection does not look like that, then you will have to use the un-linked mono plugin method. For simplicity's sake, here's how to do that in your case: 1. create a new pro tools session. 2. create one stereo audio track for your piano. 3. on the first insert of this track, select multi-mono, then select the mono version of reason. It should look something 4. select Mix L (basically, audio channel 1 from reason) on the plugin's channel selector. 5. at the top of the plugin you will see two orange links next to the L indicator. This indicates that this plugin is linked. You need to un-link it by clicking on it. Leave it set to L (it should then look ) 6. on the second insert of this track, select multi-mono, then select the mono version of reason again. 7. select select Mix R (basically, audio channel 2 from reason) on the plugin's channel selector. 8. un-link this one and then set it to R by clicking on the L next to the link button. (it should then look ) you now have one stereo feed from reason. 9. go to reason and start with a blank rack. Nothing in it but the hardware interface; no mixer, no nothing, just the hardware interface. 10. insert NN-XT and select your piano patch. When you flip the rack around, you will see that the cables are already patched from 1/L&2/R of NN-XT to audio interface 1&2 11. return to PT and create a MIDI track. 12. Set the MIDI track's output to be NN-XT and test to see if it works. 13. create one stereo audio track for your redrum. 14. on the first insert of this track, select multi-mono, then select the mono version of reason. 15. select channel 3 on the plugin's channel selector. 16. un-link it by clicking the link indicator. Leave it set to L 17. on the second insert of this track, select multi-mono, then select the mono version of reason again. 18. select channel 4 on the plugin's channel selector. 19. un-link this one and then set it to R by clicking on the L next to the link button. you now have your second stereo feed from reason. 20. go to reason and insert your redrum. 21. this time when you flip the rack around, you will have to patch your own cables from the stereo output of redrum to channels 3&4 of the audio interface 22. return to PT and create a MIDI track. 23. Set the MIDI track's output to be redrum and test to see if it works. Many people get more complex with this by sending every drum to a separate audio channel and aux track and then mixing within protools. You can stay simple, or get fancy with it, it's all up to you. Also, doing stereo feeds is much easier with the upgraded software.

First off, thank you for your extensive help. You have went well beyond what I expected. It is much appreciated! FYI: I -am- running an older version of ProTools - 6.4LE. I am running Reason 3.0. I will upgrade my ProTools software soon. In the meantime, I am still having some issues. Everything you suggested produced sound. I created AUX tracks to link to my MIDI tracks instead of audio tracks, but tried the steps you outlined with audio tracks as well (and got the same results). When I set up my REDRUM, I put some drums in the left, some in the right at various degrees. I didn't have a mixer in REASON, but went straight 'out'. The stereo imagery was not apparant in ProTools. The levels on both the left and right (unlinked and set up exactly as you outlined) were identical no matter what drum (assigned to wherever in the stereo image) I played on my keyboard. Just to make sure I wasn't totally off base, I closed everything down, reopened the Reason file I was using, created a mixer and ran the REDRUM into it. The stereo imagery that I created was intact. Somehow I am still not getting my pan information (as programmed into the REDRUM) in to ProTools. Any ideas? In the end, I could patch all the drums separately and then control all the panning through Protools as you mentioned at the end of your post. That would not be the end of the world. I could program the whole thing into Reason and play it back while recording. At this point, I am playing "live" on my keyboard with another previously recorded audio track playing in ProTools. Thus, figuring this issue out would still be nice. In the new version, do you retain any panning you program into REDRUM? QUICK ADDENDUM - when I actually use the stereo track function in ProTools for Reason (Mix L - Mix R), the stereo image is there. I am only having problems using the multiple mono thing and am running out of outputs 3 & 4, etc. in Reason. It doesn't matter if I run straight in or through the mixer. Thanks again! Doug

My apologies, it's been awhile since I've used Reason in this way since the new version of PT allows for stereo pairs. You have to use them on two mono tracks; they wont work on the same stereo track. So instead of a single stereo aux track, you would have two mono aux tracks, each with a mono reason plug, one left, one right, panned appropriately. Same thing for the redrum return; two mono aux tracks each with a mono reason plug assigned to the appropriate audio channel, set left and right, panned left and right. Much easier to do in the newer version of PT.